Ask HN: How do I jump from Senior PM –> Senior Product Engineer?
I've spent the last 5 years as a PM working closely with engineering teams, architecting solutions and speaking fluent tech - but I'm tired of being the person who draws on the whiteboard without writing the actual code. My background:
- 5 years as a PM - CS fundamentals are solid - Have built various hackathon projects (both frontend and backend) - Can sketch out system architecture in my sleep (co-invented a software patent) - Regularly contribute to technical discussions and decision-making - BUT: Haven't shipped production code professionally
I'm particularly interested in full-stack development and AI integrations. I know the product side cold, I understand what makes for good UX, and I can bridge the business-technical gap. Now I want to be the one building, not just specifying. The job market isn't great right now, which makes this transition harder. I'm looking for environments that value Respect, Integrity, operate with a Sense of Urgency, and (crucially) have Funding.
For those who've made this transition successfully:
1. What's your recommended path? 2. How did you overcome the "no professional engineering experience" hurdle? 3. Any specific companies known for supporting this kind of transition? 4. Should I target smaller companies where I can wear multiple hats?
Thanks HN!
Typically, one doesn't jump from "senior in specialized field that you're experienced in" to "senior in specialized field you're not experienced in".
Like, you wouldn't expect someone who's an assistant manager at McDonald's to finish their law degree and start a new job as senior partner at the law firm.
You have to start over as a junior engineer. Because you are starting over
I'm trying to get "senior" after 29 yoe lol. Titles mean nothing they are like saying your wealth has reached 1000000. 1000000 what?
He might go direct to senior (as a word in a title at given company) based on impact if he can regurgitate the right algos and design question answers.
> you wouldn't expect someone who's an assistant manager at McDonald's to finish their law degree and start a new job as senior partner at the law firm
I think the metaphor's a little off (I have programming experience, and what'd be more apt is a McDonald's corporate ops manager moving into in-house legal after getting law degree + passing the bar), but I get what you meant!
If you were in a similar position, how would you build a portfolio that shows you have programming skills, and aren't just good at prompting?
You might see it that way, but employers won't. You can't skip the line because you think you're good enough to, almost every junior engineer thinks the same way.
There's so much more to programming that just being able to write code without relying on AI. Otherwise boot camps would have been more effective.
Until you have years under your belt of dedicated building, you're not a senior engineer
> Should I target smaller companies where I can wear multiple hats?
Yep, that is probably your best bet. Find a job where you are hired for your PM skills, but allowed to write code. Now you have coding experience. Do that for a couple years, then switch to full-time coding.